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irgendwo haette ich noch ne deutsche..

Opening a company in Poland
For whatever reason you may decide to trade through your own company in Poland. Therefore you want to start a Polish company. Just like in the UK there are different types of company including:
spólka z. o. o. (z ograniczoną odpowiadzalnością) – private limited company (a UK ltd company). You have to draw up documents at a notary and have at least a bond capital of 50 000 PLN.
spólka akcyna – public company – (a UK plc). No idea what the process is here but I guess if you were interested in opening an S.A. you would be talking to an accountant and not reading some guy’s Blog on the Internet..
działalność jako osoba fizyczna (self-employed) – the simplest way to start!
The simplest method to start trading is to therefore go self-employed. This blog post describes the steps to do that.
Things to do before you start:
1.PESEL: In theory anyone including foreigners (who might not yet have a Pesel) can register a company, but I don’t know what extra hassles you might have if you don’t have a Pesel. When I started my company they wanted the Pesel everywhere so I guess it’s better to have it. If you don’t already have a Pesel then see here: how to get a Pesel
2.PKD code: for the Central Statistics Office (GUS – Głowny Urząd Statystyczny) you have to tell them what the nature of your business will be. There are codes for various categories and you have to pick one. For example code 62.01.Z is software development, code 85.49.A is teaching foreign languages. These codes are called PKD codes – Polska Klasyfikacja Działalnośći – Polish activity classifications. At this stage you should therefore look up what codes you want to use. A new list was published in 2007 so make sure you use the PKD 2007 list and not an older one. I used this website to find my codes: PKD codes. Also another tip is that it’s better to put too many codes rather than have to add a code later because each change incurs a 50 PLN fee. So if you think there’s a chance you might venture into other fields at a later stage then it might be worth adding the code for it now. But be careful if you do this because which codes you have listed may adversely affect which tax schemes you can apply for.
Now you’re ready:
1.Wpis do ewidencji – first job is to go to the Urząd Miasta where you live and ask to do a ‘wpis do ewidencji’. Basically this is just an entry to their register of your business. You have to fill out a form and pay a fee which varies from office to office. I paid 100 PLN. When I did it the guy was very helpful and showed me exactly how to fill out the form. I checked my PKD codes in the book they had and also had to choose a date when the company officially starts. Here is the next tip – choose the 1st of the month – it will make life simpler later on. Depending on how efficient the office is you will get a confirmation of your wpis do ewidencji a few days later in the post. I have heard that sometimes it takes a couple of weeks though. Another point worth mentioning is that a company name is optional – you can either specifiy a name such as “Green Widgets” or you can leave the name blank in which case you will trade under your own name, e.g. “John Smith”.
2.REGON - next job is to fill out form RG-1 from GUS (see above) to get your REGON number. This is where you need your PKD codes (although I also had to supply a code when I did the wpis do ewidencji). In the old days you would have to go to your nearest GUS office to do this but in a refreshing drive of efficiency you can now do this online via their website (link above). Even more efficiently (and suprisingly!) the guy asked if I wanted to do this with him when I did the wpis do ewidencji! Great – two jobs done at once!
3.Bank account – my understanding is that your company is required to have its own bank account. I didn’t check this though so I may be mistaken. In any case once you have your REGON and Wpis it’s very simple to open a bank account for your company. According to the mBank.pl website you just need some ID, regon and wpis.
4.NIP-1- Go to the Urząd Skarbowy and fill out form NIP-1 (info on NIP forms here). This form is to either apply for a NIP or update your existing NIP for physical persons who are self-employed.
5.Income tax form – Also at the Urząd Skarbowy you need to fill out a ‘declaration about starting an economic activity for the purposes of declaring income tax’. In Polish this is a zawiadomienie o rozpoczęciu prowadzenia działalności gospodarczej dla celów ewidencyjnych podatku dochodowego. On this form you specify which tax scheme you want.
6.Ledger form – Another form at the Urząd Skarbowy. On this form you declare that you will run a ledger of income and outgoings at a given address. Note that this has to be on paper that an inspector can come and check if needed. Therefore if you want to run your accounts on computer you are legally required to print out your records each month and keep them on file.
7.ZUS - you have until 7 days after the date your company officially starts (the date you gave in step 1) to register your company with ZUS so that you can make social insurance payments. You have to fill out form ZUS ZFA to register your company as an employer to open an employer account (konto płatnik). You will also need to fill out form ZUS ZUA to register yourself as an employee. Again you need the proof of your wpis to do this. They ask you for your REGON but you can always provide that later if you are still waiting for it. You can find instructions in English and German about how to fill out all of their forms here: ZUS
Choosing a tax scheme:
You can choose from:
zasady ogólne – “general rules” – this is the default option
ryczałt
karta podatkowa
At the time of writing I haven’t had a chance to read up too much on these so I apologise that the info here is a little scant. If it helps there is some info in Polish here and also here. The pros and cons of these schemes include things such as paying a flat rate of 19% tax, not being required to keep a record of accounts, being able to split your tax burden with your spouse etc.. etc..
Also I haven’t mentioned here about registering for VAT which is a requirement if your income will exceed 20 000 EUR in a year.
But I hope the information I have given is useful and will help get you started. If anyone has any feedback, corrections, experiences, more info etc.. then as always please let me know.
Good luck
Olaf

Welchen Sinn soll es machen eine englische Ltd. in Polen zu gründen? Jeder der etwas Ahnung hat , macht einen großen Bogen um alle Firmen die außerhalb von GB diese drei Buchstaben in der Firmenbezeichnung tragen.

Seriöser kommt da schon eine Sp.z.o.o.

Wenn vom Erfolg des eigenen Geschäftsplanes überzeugt und keine linken Sachen geplant sind , fragt man sich wozu überhaupt eine Gesellschaft mit beschränkter Haftung gründen? Das ist teurer und schafft kein Vertrauen.
Einfach ein Gewerbe anmelden geht am einfachsten.

Suchst Dir eine Bleibe. Meldest dich beim Einwohnermeldeamt an, besorgst Dir eine Steuernummer und eine Statistiknummer (REGON) dann zum Gewerbeamt und das Gewerbe anmelden.

Bei GmbH auf polnisch Sp.z.o.o. wird es komplizierter und da brauchst Du Hilfe vom teuren Fachmann.

Selbst für eine Briefkastenfirma muss man eine Adresse angeben. Da gibt es sicher ein paar willige Rechtsverdreher in den polnisch-deutschen Kanzleien, die solche Dinge gegen entsprechende Bezahlung erledigen.

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Original von BunterHund
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Der BunteHund hat sicher gerade schwarz geärgert!

....und ich seh' nach der gelben karte noch rot vom "egalisator"
............wenn ich das weiter kommentieren WOLLTE

hi

und was ist aus deinem Plan geworden?

Ich hab mal irgendwo was gelesen das es auch mit weniger Startkapital geht...

aber eine Ltd. ist gar nicht schlecht.

grüsse Copy